Sunday, February 25, 2018

How Many Ancestors: 2018 Edition


Here is my update to the ongoing "how many ancestors have you identified" quest.

The idea is to list the "known by name" ancestors at each genealogical level: parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, etc. As the potential ancestors double and the available records decrease over time, the challenge increases. Let's check mine and see what I've found.

Here's my chart from 2017:

And here is 2018's:

Some improvement...

In blue above are the generations where I found new ancestors over the last year.

In Level 7, the 4x great-grandparents, I made zero progress. The missing ancestors are my Irish lines. I may be forever stuck here. I have some new leads, but they are still speculative.

In Levels 8, 9 and 10, I located new records for my maternal grandmother's West Prussian family. I had great success with her Wuerttemburg lines in 2017, and now Ancestry added West Prussian microfilms that I had rented years ago, but were now much more complete and had some search capabilities. Many of these records are from what is now Poland.

Numberswise, I added 2 percentage points to my total, and now know fully a third of ten generations of ancestors (including me!) by name. Not bad!

I know were aren't supposed to be name collectors, but I enjoy this post every year ;)

One great record I found was the marriage of a pair of 7th great-grandparents, Marcin Mazciewski to Maria Nyckzynski, in Sommerau, Kries Rosenberg, West Prussia in 1744. I love how the marriages are just squeaked in on the page:

Happy Belated New Year and Happy Searching!

© 2018 Sally Knudsen

Snips: Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1518-1921 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Operations, Inc., 2017.

Monday, January 8, 2018

#52Ancestors Favorite Photo

Choosing just one favorite photo is tough!

This is a photo I snapped of my sons (who are now young men) in front of the gravestone of their 4x great-grandparents, Wright and Sally (Joslin) Spencer. Sally died in 1895 and Wright in 1899.

Wright Spencer was the guy who started it all for me. Taking my sons to "meet" him didn't mean much to them but it did to me. I'm so glad I have this photo!

Wright and Sally are maternal ancestors, and are buried in Rowley Cemetery in Locke Township, Ingham County, Michigan.

Wednesday, January 3, 2018

#52Ancestors 2018 Version: Start

Happy New Year!

I have decided to start the 52 Ancestors challenge by Amy Johnson Crow.

The first prompt is start. Just blogging again is a big start. Sadly, I only managed 5 posts last year. While I have been researching all along, I found that my real life was getting more challenging. I anticipate 2018 will be even more so. Getting back to blogging will be a fresh start for me, and a way to retreat from the real world (in a good way!).

I do maintain a website of my ancestors here at

I also completed a 52 Ancestors Challenge in 2014. Here's the wrapup.

I'm not sure how I will approach this version, but mulling it around in my head is a good start! Thanks for following along and I'll see many of you out there. Cheers!


Wednesday, May 24, 2017

Luck of MY Irish

County Tyrone coat of arms
I've always known I was of Irish descent. It was nice of my various DNA tests to confirm it. The testing companies show my ancestral heritage to be about 50% Irish. Most of it is from my dad's family.

I always had trouble actually FINDING my Irish ancestors. As more and more records became available, I did. They led me on a hunt for McBrides from Illinois to Birtley in County Durham, England and finally to County Tyrone in Northern Ireland. But like many researchers, this is where I got stuck.

Knowing County Tyrone was pretty cool, but not quite enough. I wanted to know where. Like, exactly where? Like, what parish and townland where?

DNA to the Rescue

I've done DNA testing everywhere possible. It's been more than four years since I got my first set of results back, and at times it can be tedious and frustrating. I hope to use my DNA to map my entire chromosome and use those segment matches to locate other distant relatives and confirm ancestries. 

I have never been a died-in-the-wool fan of AncestryDNA due to its lack of segment data and spotty messaging system. I continue to pursue matches there but don't expect much. However... I did have a breakthrough!

Last October, I had a new "third cousin" named Jessica show up in my results. She did not match my mom, who also tested at Ancestry, so this was intriguing. She had a handful of people in her tree from Chicago. She also had some unique names I could trace back to Joliet, Illinois, where my dad and I were born. Yet, I still didn't recognize the names. I sent Jessica a message and didn't hear a thing. Typical. I waited another month and sent a second. Still nothing.

In April, Jessica wrote back.

***pick me up off the floor***

She apologized for just receiving my messages and for not really understanding how to reply within the system (see, Ancestry 😠).

We discovered we are second cousins once removed (2C1R) through our shared McBride ancestor, John Joseph.

These are the only matches Jessica and I have in common. I had written to WM via his wife and learned we had emailed many years ago. WM is also a McBride descendant but his wife, the family historian, was stuck at the same place as me. They, however, still live in County Durham. Their daughter Jess had also tested.

Then I wrote to John. John had no tree but since he already matched two known McBride cousins, it was worth a shot. Two days later, I heard from John. He likely had to be picked up off of his floor! 

Here is the McBride descent and DNA tree:

Blue and pink are the ancestor and known children; green are descendant DNA testers

Bridget McBride married in Ireland. Alexander, Jane, Daniel, and Edward all married in Birtley and all named Daniel as their father. They all lived near each other and worked in various mines.

From my new cousin John I learned that his great-grandfather Felix was sent back to Ireland after his parents had a number of children die. They hoped for a better life for him. He eventually married and emigrated to Scotland. My ancestor Daniel did similarly: he and Mary Ann lost their first two children to scarlet fever, then sailed for America in 1880 with their surviving son, John.

John and I exchanged a number of emails with records and family stories. His mother is 93 and she thought she was the last of the McBrides. Surprise! I also learned that when Felix was sent back to Ireland, it was to where Alexander came from - Dunnamore.

Dunnamore is a village located in Kildress Parish near the city of Cookstown, almost centrally located in Northern Ireland. It even has a neolithic stone circle called Beaghmore. Swoon.
Beaghmore Stone Circle

I have more work to do to find traces of my McBrides in Ireland. The teen and young adult siblings left Ireland for England between 1851 (not on the UK census) and 1861 (all on the UK census). Did their parents, or at least Daniel as head of household, die and the famine forced an exodus? Griffith's Valuation was in its early stages and doesn't show a Daniel in Kildress. The Catholic parish registers at the National Library of Ireland do not have any of the siblings' birth records in Kildress.  The search goes on. 

For now, I'm happy to have Dunnamore as an ancestral home.

© 2017 Sally Knudsen


Coat of arms courtesy Kanchelskis [CC BY-SA 2.5 (], via Wikimedia Commons

Beaghmore photo courtesy Kenneth Allen [CC BY-SA 2.0 (], via Wikimedia Commons


Thursday, March 16, 2017

Spencer DNA

My bucket list "who are your parents?" ancestor is my 4th great-grandfather, Asa SPENCER. His story is here and his database information is here. And seriously, I'm not getting any younger...

With so many different DNA testing sites, you can only use the tools each has available. My mom Jo (a Spencer descendant) and I both tested at Ancestry. As we all know, Ancestry will not provide us nerds with a chromosome browser or segments, so we have to make do. Ancestry does provide us with "Shared Matches" and the total centimorgans (cMs) and number of segments shared with a match. Using those tools, I created this spreadsheet, read from bottom to top:

My legend:

Bold denotes those who have tested at Ancestry
Total cMs and number of segments, provided by Ancestry, as matched to my mom Jo
Orange = all shared matches with Aleta
Blue = all shared matches with RH
Green = all shared matches with Eleda
Red = all shared matches with RC
Black = all shared matches with Ed S
Everyone here matches my mom Jo

What I tried to do in my head was visualize how these mini-groups of people matched each other. And what prompted the visualization was the recurring matches to the various HULING descendants. Ooh, a pattern! I had no Hulings in my own research, nor do my known cousins here, Eleda, Aleta, and RC, all of whom I have corresponded with and can verify descent from my Asa Spencer.

The testers RH and Katie show up as the first 4th cousin matches in my mom's Shared Matches list. None appear to have transferred to Gedmatch or FTDNA. Of course, I have messaged all of the other testers to no avail, which led me to the spreadsheet. 

Honestly, I think I did a pretty good job transferring my musings to paper.

Tell me what you think. Do you think I should pursue a relationship between the Spencers and Hulings? If so, what might the relationship be? Where else in the tree should I look? What else can I do to help determine Asa's parents? Is this a legit way to show relationships without segments? Help me, DNA!

© 2017 Sally Knudsen

Sunday, January 29, 2017

Test Post

This is a test.

I previously used a client to forward my blog posts to Twitter...and then it shut down. I have registered with And my first post came up with duplicate appendages:

Trying again. I checked the settings and they only appear once.

If they duplicate again, any ideas?